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. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did, they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base, and they worked together to fix that. what we're saying is, here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deduck haddions. what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed which has a broader base of taxation. >> can i translate? >> we can lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond to this. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with the congress on how best to achieve this. that means successful. >> no specifics again. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy, work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have verified that this math adds up. >> vice president biden. >> look -- >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> i'll come back in a sec
. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did, they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base, and they worked together to fix that. what we're saying is, here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deduck haddions. what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed which has a broader base...
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reagan made many years ago. you get lower tax rates. your take home pay for education, for your work, for your home, for your mortgage, that really matters. i hope, and i'm going to ask you, will ryan follow in romney's footsteps, because i thought for the very first time romney really made that case last week, and it's helped him shoot up in the polls. >> oh, i think he l.as you know, paul ryan worked for jack kemp at empower america. he worked for castin who is one of the original supply-siders. he gets this stuff in the very heart of his being, and it's an important story to tell that in fact, if you look at the price of gasoline. obama has failed. if you look at the unemployment rate, obama has failed. the answer is not austerity. the answer is growth. if you have growth, can you mop up a lot of your problems, be prudent about spending, get back to a balanced budget which has only occurred in your lifetime because of a republican congress. >> last one, we're kind of short of time, but if biden starts crowing
reagan made many years ago. you get lower tax rates. your take home pay for education, for your work, for your home, for your mortgage, that really matters. i hope, and i'm going to ask you, will ryan follow in romney's footsteps, because i thought for the very first time romney really made that case last week, and it's helped him shoot up in the polls. >> oh, i think he l.as you know, paul ryan worked for jack kemp at empower america. he worked for castin who is one of the original...
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ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> so was there a clear winner? 130,000 votes, and joe biden is leading with more than half. joining us for more, julian epstein and boris former aide to mccain/palin campaign in 2008. so boris, did paul ryan succeed here? has this been a game changing movement, has it picked up on the momentum that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to america that he is ready to be vice president and president if need be. and he absolutely did that. he was strong, he was resolute, and he stood up to very childish attacks from joe biden. some of the attacks were disappoint willing, the laughter, the smirking. it was very unvice presidential and unprofessional and at the end if you noticed when it was time to give their closing remarks, joe biden did not thank paul ryan, but paul ryan thanked joe biden. so on the overall picture, paul ryan did it great. does it help the momentum, it does. does it help democrats, it does not. democrats are st
ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> so was there a clear winner? 130,000 votes, and joe biden is leading with more than half. joining us for more, julian epstein and boris former aide to mccain/palin campaign in 2008. so boris, did paul ryan succeed here? has this been a game changing movement, has it picked up on the momentum that romney started with last week? >> it didn't need to be a game changing movement. what paul ryan needed to do was make his point to...
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. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower taxes 20%. 1.1 million in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers so more income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. and here is why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond to this? >> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress, that means specifically. >> no specific. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. >> and you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and said this math adds up. >> let me translate. >> i'll come back in a second, right? >> i was there when ronald reagan you gave tax rates, he gave specifics of what he would cut in terms of taxan expenditures. 90% of small businesses in america make less than 250,000. let me tell you who other small businesses are. hedge funds, that make $600, $800 million a year. that will count as small b
. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower taxes 20%. 1.1 million in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers so more income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. and here is why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond to this? >> you will get time. >> we want to...
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. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. so what we're saying is deny those so that more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate sf. >> so we get to lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. >> i hope i'm getting a timed response. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. that means successful -- >> no specifics, again. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. start with the wealthy. work with congress. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. >> six study advisory guaranteed. six study advisory verified this math adds up. >> vice president biden. vice president biden. >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> i'll come back in a second then, right? >> i was there when ronald reagan --
. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. so what we're saying is deny those so that more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate sf. >> so we get to lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. >> i...
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. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. and they worked together to fix that. what we're saying is, here's our framework, lower taxerates about 20%. we forego about 1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. whoa we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers to more of their income is taxed. so we can lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. >> i hope i'm going to get time to respond to this one. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with congress on how to achieve this. >> no specifics? >> lower tax rates 20%. start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math will add up? >> six studies have guaranteed. six study have verified this math adds up. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there when ronald reagan gave specifics on what he would cut. number two, 97% of small businesses in america make less than $250,000. let me tell you who some of the small businesses are. hedge
. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. and they worked together to fix that. what we're saying is, here's our framework, lower taxerates about 20%. we forego about 1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. whoa we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers to more of their income is taxed. so we can lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. >> i hope i'm...
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romney, obama aides say, is no ronald reagan, more like chevy chase. combatting that image, romney met with a group of retired generals after a speech. the romney approach would be both more muscular and bipartisan. >> if you look at harry truman and john kennedy and the use of power by bill clinton in his second term, that is a much different approach than jimmy carter and barack obama. >> reporter: to put his vision into action, romney will have to win first, which explains why he made an impromptu stop at a nearby elementary school. at this stage of the race, the pictures matter almost as much as the policies. romney did mention the obama campaign's trump card on foreign policy, the killing of osama bin laden, but he seemed to give the credit to what he called, quote, military and intelligence professionals. romney will now shift back to the economy with campaign events coming up here in virginia and also in iowa and ohio. wolf? >> jim acosta, thank you. let's go back to gloria borger. what was mitt romney trying to accomplish with this marriage for
romney, obama aides say, is no ronald reagan, more like chevy chase. combatting that image, romney met with a group of retired generals after a speech. the romney approach would be both more muscular and bipartisan. >> if you look at harry truman and john kennedy and the use of power by bill clinton in his second term, that is a much different approach than jimmy carter and barack obama. >> reporter: to put his vision into action, romney will have to win first, which explains why he...
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look, you have a conservative that many say is the heir to ronald reagan and jack kemp. you have a progressive vice president who the democrats and liberals are looking for passion. let's be honest, you also have two people who could factor into 2016 presidential calculations. if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about joe biden for a minute. remember last time they said you don't want to come off as condescending to sarah palin or even sexist. does the same thing aplay here? obviously not the sexist part, but condescending to someone younger than him for a paul ryan who seems to be new? does that challenge exist in this particular debate? >> reporter: well, i think that challenge exists in every debate. certainly it was different to have, you know, you're having a man debating a woman. that's a different calculation. but you don't want to be smug in any debate. it was interesting, you know, a lot of
look, you have a conservative that many say is the heir to ronald reagan and jack kemp. you have a progressive vice president who the democrats and liberals are looking for passion. let's be honest, you also have two people who could factor into 2016 presidential calculations. if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about...
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i was a young staff member in the early '80s when ronald reagan was in the white house and our marine and the unit was attacked by a truck bomb at the beirut airport. dozens of young americans were killed. i had just been to beirut on a senate staff study and shortly after i returned, our embassy was bombed in downtown beirut, killing many more americans, including a good friend of mine who work for usaid. it is very serious business. when tragedies occur in a dangerous world, to attempt to exploit it politically, and i know we're not trying to do that 27 days out from an election, colonel, you testified you had concerns and you were approached -- you are with the utah national guard, correct? >> yes. >> you approach your >> you approach your
i was a young staff member in the early '80s when ronald reagan was in the white house and our marine and the unit was attacked by a truck bomb at the beirut airport. dozens of young americans were killed. i had just been to beirut on a senate staff study and shortly after i returned, our embassy was bombed in downtown beirut, killing many more americans, including a good friend of mine who work for usaid. it is very serious business. when tragedies occur in a dangerous world, to attempt to...
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. >> no president has had reorganization authority since ronald reagan lost in the 1980's, when it expired. i think there needs to come back. i would put back some type of entitlement authority that was lost after the nixon era. the subcommittees in congress are not very good managers of certain things. so there has to be a combination. you cannot leave the size and structure of the government we have in place. this government functions on a 19th century organization model despite the availability of 21st century technology. everybody is automating everything and it's very slow. you look at the demographics of the federal workforce, they are aging. attrition would take care of a lot of this if it could be accompanied by rigorous management. president obama, prior to becoming president, the largest management he had was [ indiscernible.] >> i think that was a plug. the gentleman with the red tide. let's look for the microphone. >> i am with northstar policy navigation and james callan associates. we have enormous potential in the united states to develop our energy resources. it seems a lot
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when ronald reagan got into office, he started regulating everything. before he got out of office, missouri was losing its shoe factories. in 1991, our factory closed and sold as several others. -- and so did several others. these people are not for the american people. they are out for the rich people in this country and i think it is sad when a democrat gets into office, they turn into bullies. they don't want the democrats to get a thing done. i think it is so pathetic. they are getting paid to work for this country and instead they are just a bunch of bullies. host: what about her sentiment? guest: i think vice president joe biden is interested in these issues. one thing he has worked and in the by president say is a task force or a commission -- in the vice presidency is a task force to work on this. these issues about jobs being exported and jobs leaving and about diminished security for the middle-class -- the questions that joe biden has thought a lot about. at a general level, he would be quite comfortable talking about this with paul ryan and
when ronald reagan got into office, he started regulating everything. before he got out of office, missouri was losing its shoe factories. in 1991, our factory closed and sold as several others. -- and so did several others. these people are not for the american people. they are out for the rich people in this country and i think it is sad when a democrat gets into office, they turn into bullies. they don't want the democrats to get a thing done. i think it is so pathetic. they are getting paid...
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ronald reagan famously said that the soviet union was the evil empire. do you think that russia under vladimir putin is an evil empire? >> i think they've engaged in an evil behavior and i think that it is important that we understand they're not the old soviet union but they still have nationalist impulses that i think are very dangerous. >> senator mccain? >> maybe. >> maybe. >> depends on how we respond to russia and it depends on a lot of things. if i say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old cold war. if i say no, it ignores their behavior. obviously energy is going to be a big, big factor. and georgia and ukraine are both major gateways of energy into europe. and that's one of the reasons why it's in our interest. but the russians, i think we can deal with them but they've got to understand that they're facing a very firm and determined united states of america that will defend our interests and that of other countries in the world. >> all right. we're going to try to get in two more questions, if we can. so we have to move along. over
ronald reagan famously said that the soviet union was the evil empire. do you think that russia under vladimir putin is an evil empire? >> i think they've engaged in an evil behavior and i think that it is important that we understand they're not the old soviet union but they still have nationalist impulses that i think are very dangerous. >> senator mccain? >> maybe. >> maybe. >> depends on how we respond to russia and it depends on a lot of things. if i say yes,...
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i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000. hedge funds that make $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney on "60 minutes," 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 pays more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to cut those loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is that carried interest loophole and capital gains loophole. there is not enough -- the reason why the american enterprise institute study, the reason they all say it is going to go up for the middle class, the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people. cut the health care deduction for middle-class people. that is why -- >> he is wrong about that. >> not mathematically possible. >> it has been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple of tim
i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000. hedge funds that make $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney on "60 minutes," 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 pays more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to cut those loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage...
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reagan has done and opposes what ronald reagan wants to do, the joint chiefs of staff and the secretary of defense and says let's go slow on further disarmament in trying to get the next treaty. i think that's a mistake. i think that you have to deal with the russians from strength and we have to understand that you have to have a strong modernized nuclear deterrent, but i think we can make substantial progress and we ought to take advantage. i think he's arrived at a very dangerous judgment in the question of war and peace and it concerns me very much. because i saw him also try to sabotage the inf treaty when it was on the floor of the united states senate with what he was doing there. he's listening once again to the winds of the radical right. >> senator. >> my light was still on, judy. >> john margolis, a question for senator quayle. >> senator quayle, i want to go back to the matter of qualifications, which i think for most people is more than just your >> john, we can't hear you. >> can you hear now? >> i can hear you. [laughter] >> i want to go back to the question of qualificat
reagan has done and opposes what ronald reagan wants to do, the joint chiefs of staff and the secretary of defense and says let's go slow on further disarmament in trying to get the next treaty. i think that's a mistake. i think that you have to deal with the russians from strength and we have to understand that you have to have a strong modernized nuclear deterrent, but i think we can make substantial progress and we ought to take advantage. i think he's arrived at a very dangerous judgment in...
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. >> in addition, when you are president, and this is why ronald reagan lost his first debate and why president george w. bush lost his first reelection debate, it has been four years. anybody has gotten in your grill. nobody tells you what you think. he is not used to it. but the president almost seriously -- physically was taken aback as romney went at it. the romney folks knew months ago that the debate prep would be the manhattan project of their campaign. that was where they would flip the switch if they had any possibility to. we saw a romney moved -- who his family had been encouraging the campaign to let him be more of himself, less scripted. we saw him all come out. he has to do with two more times. there are a number of countries that will tell you you only get one single attack. [laughter] to apologize to any of the ambassadors of our exalted -- insulted. charlotte -- charlie mentioned new jersey leno. it abused me hearing the obama's cams series of excuses. david letterman did the top 10 excuses. number 5 was mitt romney's here is mesmerizing. number 2 was asked osama bin
. >> in addition, when you are president, and this is why ronald reagan lost his first debate and why president george w. bush lost his first reelection debate, it has been four years. anybody has gotten in your grill. nobody tells you what you think. he is not used to it. but the president almost seriously -- physically was taken aback as romney went at it. the romney folks knew months ago that the debate prep would be the manhattan project of their campaign. that was where they would...
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ronald reagan and the 1986 congress invented this. in the upcoming talks on the fiscal cliff, we should scrap this. the old style of tax reform is obsolete in a 2012 world. it does not fit the times because there are two new conditions that did not exist in 1986 but are staring us in the face today. first, a much larger and much more dangerous deficit and second, a dramatic increase been income and inequality. old-style tax reform could make both conditions worse. but don't dismiss the old framework lightly. credit for the 1986 reform law belongs to democrats like bill bradley in the senate. just as much as to president reagan. as a member of the house back then, i not only voted for it, but i whipped the votes to make sure it passed. i was on the committee set up by dan rostenkowski to get it done. the approach made a good deal of sense at the time. then, as now, the code was littered with egregious loopholes that needed to be reformed. recall the so-called passive law schools that were in place back then. they allowed wealthy taxpay
ronald reagan and the 1986 congress invented this. in the upcoming talks on the fiscal cliff, we should scrap this. the old style of tax reform is obsolete in a 2012 world. it does not fit the times because there are two new conditions that did not exist in 1986 but are staring us in the face today. first, a much larger and much more dangerous deficit and second, a dramatic increase been income and inequality. old-style tax reform could make both conditions worse. but don't dismiss the old...
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it was in a different time we had a great president, ronald reagan, who was known for his strength on national defense. i was only able to find the data base of the navy and marine victims. there are 56 dead, 46 wounded. a lot of us remember that as a peaceful time. it was not. sam novello, killed by turkish leftist, istanbul, turkey. marines wounded in a terrorist attack in costa rica. one u.s. embassy marine security guard wounded in beirut, lebanon. terrorist bombing of the u.s. and debate -- embassy in beirut, lebanon. lt. cmdr killed by terrorists in all salvador. corporal d.r. mo -- killed in a terrorist attack in cyprus. shocked by terrorist near athens, greece. -- shot by terrorists near athens, greece. hospital man wounded beirut, lebanon. michael wagner assigned to the defense office, killed. civil engineer harvey whitaker, killed. builder first-class and four marine security guards when did in the terrorist bombing of u.s. embassy in beirut, lebanon. steelworker, a second class, underwater construction team, killed by terrorist, athens, greece. off-duty marines assigned to
it was in a different time we had a great president, ronald reagan, who was known for his strength on national defense. i was only able to find the data base of the navy and marine victims. there are 56 dead, 46 wounded. a lot of us remember that as a peaceful time. it was not. sam novello, killed by turkish leftist, istanbul, turkey. marines wounded in a terrorist attack in costa rica. one u.s. embassy marine security guard wounded in beirut, lebanon. terrorist bombing of the u.s. and debate...
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it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's discussion will cover a wide range of topics, including domestic and foreign- policy matters. it will be divided roughly into it will be divided roughly into
it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's discussion will cover a wide range of topics, including domestic and foreign- policy matters. it will be divided roughly into it will be divided roughly...
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ronald reagan and president carter. and for that one they offered me a seat in the hall and i took it and it turned out to be the worst place in the world to watch a presidential debate because everyone in america of course is watching it on tv and you get a different perspective in the hall. it's not -- in many events it's great to be inside where it's actually happening. i think for a journalist that's not the case for these presidential debates. every debate since then i've covered off tv. i'll be in the media filing center watching those tv screens and frantically trying to meet my first deadline when it comes up and wanting to see the debate just as american voters will be seeing it. >> when is the first time you have to file tonight? >> sadly the first time i have to file tonight is 9:35. so that will be a pretty tentative story because the debate will have just begun. and so -- but then i have another hour before my second edition deadline so that story should be able to be a little more conclusive. >> we have a
ronald reagan and president carter. and for that one they offered me a seat in the hall and i took it and it turned out to be the worst place in the world to watch a presidential debate because everyone in america of course is watching it on tv and you get a different perspective in the hall. it's not -- in many events it's great to be inside where it's actually happening. i think for a journalist that's not the case for these presidential debates. every debate since then i've covered off tv....
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they are paying no more than they did under ronald reagan. >> i do take issue with some of the principal, that redistribution of wealth principle. when you talk about barack's plan to tax increase affecting only those making 4250,000 that category. onesey're going to be the paying higher taxes thus resulting in fewer jobs being created and less productivity. now you said recently that higher taxes or asking for higher taxes or paying higher taxes is patriotic. in the middle class of america which is where todd and i have been all of our lives, that's not patriotic. patriotic is saying, government, you know, you're not always the solution. in fact, too often you're the problem so, government, lessen the tax burden and on our families and get out of the way and let the private sector and our families grow and thrive and prosper. an increased tax formula that barack obama is proposing in addition to nearly a trillion dollars in new spending that he's proposing is the backwards way of trying to grow our economy. >> governor, are you interested in defending senator mccain's health care plan?
they are paying no more than they did under ronald reagan. >> i do take issue with some of the principal, that redistribution of wealth principle. when you talk about barack's plan to tax increase affecting only those making 4250,000 that category. onesey're going to be the paying higher taxes thus resulting in fewer jobs being created and less productivity. now you said recently that higher taxes or asking for higher taxes or paying higher taxes is patriotic. in the middle class of...
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. >> no president has had the reorganization of authority since ronald reagan. it expired in the 1980's. i think that needs to come back. i would put back the authority lost after the nixon area -- era. there has got to be a combination. you cannot leave the size and the structure of the garment we have in place. this is a government functions on an old model despite a 20 per century technology model. it is painful and slow. look at the demographics of the federal work force. they are aging. attrition would take care of a lot of this, if it could be accompanied by risk management. president obama, the largest management he has -- he has run the latest -- >> speaking about governors becoming president -- [laughter] >> i am very partial. >> next question. let's get a microphone to you. >> i consulted in lobbying. you talked about energy. we have enormous potential to develop our energy resources. it seems that a lot of it is a communications channel. when you have a lease, that does not mean that you will find the oil. we talked about having enormous reserves. it
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it was in a different time we had a great president, ronald reagan, who was known for his strength on national defense. i was only able to find the data base of the navy and marine victims. there are 56 dead, 46 wounded. a lot of us remember that as a peaceful time. it was not. sam novello, killed by turkish leftist, istanbul, turkey. marines wounded in a terrorist attack in costa rica. one u.s. embassy marine security guard wounded in beirut, lebanon. terrorist bombing of the u.s. embassy in beirut, lebanon. lt. cmdr killed by terrorists in all salvador. -- in el salvador. corporal killed in a terrorist attack in cyprus. shocked by terrorist near athens, greece. -- shot by terrorists near athens, greece. hospital man wounded beirut, lebanon. michael wagner assigned to the defense office, killed. civil engineer harvey whitaker, killed. builder first-class and four marine security guards when did -- wounded in the terrorist bombing of u.s. embassy in beirut, lebanon. steelworker, a second class, underwater construction team, killed by terrorist, athens, greece. off-duty marines assigne
it was in a different time we had a great president, ronald reagan, who was known for his strength on national defense. i was only able to find the data base of the navy and marine victims. there are 56 dead, 46 wounded. a lot of us remember that as a peaceful time. it was not. sam novello, killed by turkish leftist, istanbul, turkey. marines wounded in a terrorist attack in costa rica. one u.s. embassy marine security guard wounded in beirut, lebanon. terrorist bombing of the u.s. embassy in...
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to date is set aside by congress and ronald reagan in 1983 to honor the largest minority group in this country, it is national german americans a day. i want to say hello to 60 million americans of german descent and work ethic. much of the industries from pennsylvania dutch country to minnesota involve them. there are many german companies that have thrived in this country. host: what is your job caller: status currently unemployed six months. in construction. obama, in 2009, had the third highest legal immigration rate ever with 1.3 million immigrants. our legal immigration has not been tamped down at all. legal immigration has slowed down. it is interesting that we added three or 4 million people to our country probably in the last four years. in our history, whenever there was a depression, especially the great depression, we stop to immigration. we closed the borders. we have hundreds of thousands of people in bread lines and you could that have extra people coming here. host: what caused you to not work in construction anymore? caller: it has to do with the area of illegal immigr
to date is set aside by congress and ronald reagan in 1983 to honor the largest minority group in this country, it is national german americans a day. i want to say hello to 60 million americans of german descent and work ethic. much of the industries from pennsylvania dutch country to minnesota involve them. there are many german companies that have thrived in this country. host: what is your job caller: status currently unemployed six months. in construction. obama, in 2009, had the third...
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. >> no president has had the reorganization of authority since ronald reagan. i think that needs to come back. there has got to be a combination. you cannot leave the size and the structure of the garment we have in place. this is a government functions on an old model despite a 20 per century technology model. it is painful and slow. look at the demographics of the federal work force. they are aging. >> next question. let's get a microphone to you. >> i consulted in lobbying. you talked about energy. we have enormous potential to develop our energy resources. it seems that a lot of it is a communications channel. when you have a lease, that does not mean that you will find the oil. we talked about having enormous reserves. it takes a long time to find the energy and develop it. it is very expensive. how do we better communicate that to the average citizen? and that will be key in the order for us to have sound energy policy and develop our resources. it can benefit all americans. >> the chambers is very active in politics, but we do not do presidential politic
. >> no president has had the reorganization of authority since ronald reagan. i think that needs to come back. there has got to be a combination. you cannot leave the size and the structure of the garment we have in place. this is a government functions on an old model despite a 20 per century technology model. it is painful and slow. look at the demographics of the federal work force. they are aging. >> next question. let's get a microphone to you. >> i consulted in...
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what i do is the same way that tip o'neill and ronald reagan work together years ago. he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. he said he would lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you said the same thing. those are my principles. i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. i will work together with congress to say what are the various ways we can bring down deductions. one way will be to have a single number. make up a number -- $50,000. anybody can have deductions up to that amount. that number disappears for high income people. one could follow bowles simspn as a model. there are other ways to accomplish the objective that i have it. simplify the code, broaden the base, and create incentives for growth. with regards to health care, you obviously studied up on my plan. in fact, i do have a plan that deals with people with pre- existing conditions. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation state by state. i have said that at that time. the federal government taking over health care for the entire nat
what i do is the same way that tip o'neill and ronald reagan work together years ago. he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. he said he would lower tax rates. he said he was going to broaden the base. you said the same thing. those are my principles. i want to bring down the tax burden on middle income families. i will work together with congress to say what are the various ways we can bring down deductions. one way will be to have a single number. make up a number -- $50,000....
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host: chairman of gopac and democratic chairman and assistant to president ronald reagan, deputy assistant to the president at the white house, served on the white house chief of staff . talk about debate negotiations. how do you negotiate the debates? what are the terms that you're looking at? guest: this has become much more sophisticated over the years. when we negotiated the 1984 debates, the entire agreement was encompassed in three pages and now they go on for pages and pages. take into consideration every single requirement as far as lighting and staging and how you're going to address both candidates. do you call him mr. president or m r. obama. the color of the set all of those sorts of things. it's become a lot more complicated over the years. now, the commission on presidential debates, who i think do a very good job, they get heavily involved now too. they're involved in the process. host: what do you think lot was made of the moderator from the first debate, jim lehrer. how he moderated the debate? the commission came out with a statement days after said he did what he asked h
host: chairman of gopac and democratic chairman and assistant to president ronald reagan, deputy assistant to the president at the white house, served on the white house chief of staff . talk about debate negotiations. how do you negotiate the debates? what are the terms that you're looking at? guest: this has become much more sophisticated over the years. when we negotiated the 1984 debates, the entire agreement was encompassed in three pages and now they go on for pages and pages. take into...
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a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying ai? host: jim is on the republican line from corpus christi, texas. caller: one of your guests made the remark that in ohio, being a purple state, they go republican or democrat. they don't have a lot of passion for politics -- politicians to get the job done. i don't think we should wait forever for a difference to be made. another comment i wanted to make, i am a big believer in the best man will win. that this not just apply to candidates running for reelection. the best companies will survive. i think bailing out these things, intervening, it's probably not a good idea. host: thanks for the call from texas. guest: in terms of the impatience of ohio voters, i think he's ri
a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying ai? host: jim is on the republican line from corpus christi, texas. caller: one of your guests made the remark that in ohio,...
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a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying it? host: jim is on the republican line from corpus christi, texas. caller: one of your guests made the remark that in ohio, being a purple state, they go republican or democrat. they don't have a lot of passion for politics -- politicians to get the job done. i don't think we should wait forever for a difference to be made. another comment i wanted to make, i am a big believer in the best man will win. that this not just apply to candidates running for reelection. the best companies will survive. i think bailing out these things, intervening, it's probably not a good idea. host: thanks for the call from texas. guest: in terms of the impatience of ohio voters, i think he's ri
a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying it? host: jim is on the republican line from corpus christi, texas. caller: one of your guests made the remark that in ohio,...
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a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying it? have a rising tide, and the theory here is, do we want to have a higher tax rate and fewer taxpayers or do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying it? gov. rahm lee and myself support having a lower rate. >> from the republican line, good morning. >> i was not in front of the tv, but one of the guests noted that in ohio, being a purple state, though in republican or democrat, it seems like they don't have a lot of patience for politicians to get the job done. i am a big believer in the best man will win. the candidate running an election, but the best company will provide it. i think bailing out these things, intervening, it is probably not a good idea. >
a philosophy that john kennedy had and ronald reagan has. you want to lower the tax base and broaden the base. we have heard many discussions about how many americans are not paying taxes. if we get more people back to work and paying taxes and contributing, that does have a rising tide and does lift all boats. do we want to have a lower tax rate with more people paying it? have a rising tide, and the theory here is, do we want to have a higher tax rate and fewer taxpayers or do we want to have...
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biden: ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut, number one. number two, 97% of the small businesses in america pay less -- make less than $250,000. let me tell you who some of those other small businesses are, hedge funds that make six, eight hundred million dollars a year. what they count as small business because they're pass-through. let's look at how sincere they are. ronald -- i mean, excuse me, governor romney on "60 minutes," i guess it was about ten days ago was asked, golf, you pay 14% on $20 million. some are making $50,000 pay more than that. do you think that's fair? he said, oh, yes, that's fair. and they're going to talk -- you think these guys are going to go out there and cut those loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carried interest loophole and capital gains loophole. they exempt that. now, there's not enough -- the reason why the aei study, the american enterprise institute study, the tax policy center study, the reason they all say it's going to go up on the middle class, the only way you can find
biden: ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut, number one. number two, 97% of the small businesses in america pay less -- make less than $250,000. let me tell you who some of those other small businesses are, hedge funds that make six, eight hundred million dollars a year. what they count as small business because they're pass-through. let's look at how sincere they are. ronald -- i mean, excuse me, governor romney on "60 minutes," i guess it was about ten days ago...
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and by the way,tail pay no more than they -- they'll pay no more than they did under ronald reagan. >> moderator: governor? palin: i do take issue with that redistribution of wealth principle that seems to be espoused by you. when you talk about barack's plan to tax increase affecting only those making $250,000 a year or more, you're forgetting the millions of small businesses that are going to fit into that category. so they're going to be the ones paying higher taxes, thus resulting in fewer jobs being created and less productivity. now, you said recently that higher taxes or asking for higher taxes or paying higher taxes is patriotic. um, in the middle class of america which is where todd and i have been, you know, all of our lives, that's not patriotic. patriotic is saying, government, you know, you're not always the solution. in fact, too often you're the problem. so, government, lessen the tax burden on the private sector and on our families and get out of the way and let the private sector and our families grow and thrive and prosper. an increased tax form rah that barack obama
and by the way,tail pay no more than they -- they'll pay no more than they did under ronald reagan. >> moderator: governor? palin: i do take issue with that redistribution of wealth principle that seems to be espoused by you. when you talk about barack's plan to tax increase affecting only those making $250,000 a year or more, you're forgetting the millions of small businesses that are going to fit into that category. so they're going to be the ones paying higher taxes, thus resulting in...
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um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power, end racial preferences intended to assist african-americans, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere and, above all, um, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution, um, was the arrival in washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda. who were two of the best and brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 197 finish -- in 1985 in a memo plotting litigation strategy
um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative...
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and ronald reagan didn't go to war with the soviets. he actually was the one i convinced the soviets that it was pointless to go to war with us, or to try to out build us. the real issue here is how credible is the united states going to be? if you want to pivot to asia, you want to cut the defense budget, you tell me how those to add up. because i can't figure it out. >> let me follow up on the iran point for just a moment. and ask both of you, what should the ultimate objective of u.s. policy in iran be? should it be a nonnuclear iran? should be a regime change? can we live with us, and iran if it's not pursuing a nuclear weapon? >> the president said we would not accept a rare with a nuclear weapon. there are a lot of other issues on the agenda with iran, international terrorism, cracking down on its people, but it seems to me the issues that were most focus on, among many, it is the nuclear issue and preventing iran from having a nuclear weapon. the governor has taken a multitude of positions on iran, including agreeing with the pre
and ronald reagan didn't go to war with the soviets. he actually was the one i convinced the soviets that it was pointless to go to war with us, or to try to out build us. the real issue here is how credible is the united states going to be? if you want to pivot to asia, you want to cut the defense budget, you tell me how those to add up. because i can't figure it out. >> let me follow up on the iran point for just a moment. and ask both of you, what should the ultimate objective of u.s....
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um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power, end racial preferences intended to assist african-americans, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere and, above all, um, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution, um, was the arrival in washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda. who were two of the best and brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 197 finish -- in 1985 in a memo plotting litigation strategy
um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative...
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and ronald reagan didn't go to war with the soviets. he actually was the one that convinced the soviets that it was pointless to go to war with us. to try to out build us. the real issue here is how credible is the united states going to be? if you want to position -- pivot to asia and cut the defense budget you tell me how those to add that because i can't figure it out. >> let me figure -- follow up on a ram point and ask both of you what should be the ultimate subjective of iran be quick should it be a nonnuclear iran? should be regime change? can we live with his government in iran if it is not pursuing a nuclear weapon? >> the president said that he would not accept iran with a nuclear weapon and there a lot of other issues on the agenda with iran, supporting international terrorism, cracking down on his people and the issues we are most focused on. among many it is the nuclear issue and preventing iran from having a nuclear weapon. now the governor has taken a multitude of positions on my red including agreeing with the president
and ronald reagan didn't go to war with the soviets. he actually was the one that convinced the soviets that it was pointless to go to war with us. to try to out build us. the real issue here is how credible is the united states going to be? if you want to position -- pivot to asia and cut the defense budget you tell me how those to add that because i can't figure it out. >> let me figure -- follow up on a ram point and ask both of you what should be the ultimate subjective of iran be...
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roll the tape. >> largely as a result of the policy and priorities of the ronald reagan administration more people are becoming poorer and staying power in this country than any time since world war ii. >> wednesday morning the day when the budget picture focus seems gloomier than ever and it's time to pay for the cost of the reagan years. let's not debate his presidency for his passing as opposed to a man like reagan, nixon is highly regarded as a genuine statesman of the first-class mind. with him gone now who becomes the country's single statement? jimmy carter? >> i also like to talk about this week including the sexual harassment suit against the president. >> in light of the new welfare reform bill to you think the children need more prayer than ever before? as the republican party you know it is populated by the pat buchanan, jesse helms, james falk well, is there a right to be suspicious? >> someone says these are the world's greatest athletes despite it looks like a gop convention. >> you know what, in terms of my political views i hold them in check. i don't think that someon
roll the tape. >> largely as a result of the policy and priorities of the ronald reagan administration more people are becoming poorer and staying power in this country than any time since world war ii. >> wednesday morning the day when the budget picture focus seems gloomier than ever and it's time to pay for the cost of the reagan years. let's not debate his presidency for his passing as opposed to a man like reagan, nixon is highly regarded as a genuine statesman of the...
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[cheering and applause] that's why gerald ford signed the earned income tax credit and ronald reagan said it was the best -- it took over 2 million children out of poverty. that why i started the child tax credit, and when president george w. bush cut the taxes for high income people, at least he doubled the child tax credit. and when president obama became president, and we were losing three quartering of a million dollars a month, he increased the earned income tax credit again and did something we want dotted is not cap it at three kids. if a working family had five kids, they could get more help. [cheering and applause] in other words, this was a bipartisan american commitment until now. now you know, we're a bunch of slackers, us democrats. [laughter] shelly berkeley waiter daddy who worked hard to help her. john's story. steven's story. i was in northern california before i came here with four candidates for congress, two incumbents and two challengers. just think about this. it's kind of like you. like america. [cheering and applause] so i'm standing there and one of them, joh
[cheering and applause] that's why gerald ford signed the earned income tax credit and ronald reagan said it was the best -- it took over 2 million children out of poverty. that why i started the child tax credit, and when president george w. bush cut the taxes for high income people, at least he doubled the child tax credit. and when president obama became president, and we were losing three quartering of a million dollars a month, he increased the earned income tax credit again and did...
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kate president-elect ronald reagan some advice. consistent taxes, regulatory. the same positive story over and over and over, and it will turn. and you have to believe in it. so america is usually going to do the right thing after it has exhausted the possibilities. i'm hoping we do. the important part to me is in washington, if you think that washington and business can go to work with each other and begin, collaboration is what should happen. we should have had collaboration we were in a crisis. every business i know wanted to help. would have pulled together, worked around the clock, but it became a war. we are really getting. so it is another wet blanket. the benefit to make it is right and move on. >> list transition. to the extent there has been a marked absence, collaboration, or significant friction between the worlds of politics and business, but the lion's share the responsibility on the political side. >> i would put it on the political and business side. the business ceos, everyone i know is coming down and say what can we do to help. the council, t
kate president-elect ronald reagan some advice. consistent taxes, regulatory. the same positive story over and over and over, and it will turn. and you have to believe in it. so america is usually going to do the right thing after it has exhausted the possibilities. i'm hoping we do. the important part to me is in washington, if you think that washington and business can go to work with each other and begin, collaboration is what should happen. we should have had collaboration we were in a...
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. >> it has been done before jack kennedy, and ronald reagan -- >> oh now your jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: mike in texas. >> caller: hi, how are you doing? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i was watching cnn yesterday, and i thought that ryan had as much time as joe biden did to i guess speak his point across and i -- i -- the way i see this republicans say joe biden was being rude i say -- >> stephanie: on fox news when you hear rude it's charlie sheen speak for, winning. >> caller: yeah, exactly. if he is going to keep low beating ryan, because he doesn't answer the questions. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. hi, greg. >> caller: hey first time caller, really enjoy your show. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: all morning long on the cable networks the only thing they could talk about is joe biden smiling and smirking. i'm a political junky and if you watch that closely, every time joe biden smiles was only when mr. ryan was lying. >> stephanie: exactly. and every time joe biden smiles an angel gets its wings. >> charlie pierce wrote a piece and he ended it with do yo
. >> it has been done before jack kennedy, and ronald reagan -- >> oh now your jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: mike in texas. >> caller: hi, how are you doing? >> stephanie: good, go ahead. >> caller: i was watching cnn yesterday, and i thought that ryan had as much time as joe biden did to i guess speak his point across and i -- i -- the way i see this republicans say joe biden was being rude i say -- >> stephanie: on fox news when you hear...
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>> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board -- >> biden: i hope i'm going to get time to respond -- >> you'll get time. >> ryan: we want to work on how to achieve this -- >> no specifics, then. >> ryan: lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy -- >> can you guarantee this math will add up. >> ryan: six studies have verified that this will add up -- >> vice president biden. >> biden: let me have a chance to translate. ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut number one in terms of tax expenditures. number two 90% of the small businesses in america make less than $250,000. let me tell you who some of
>> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board --...
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>> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions, so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board -- >> biden: i hope i'm going to get time to respond -- >> you'll get time. >> ryan: we want to work on how to achieve this -- >> no specifics, then. >> ryan: lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy -- >> can you guarantee this math will add up. >> ryan: six studies have verified that this will add up -- >> vice president biden. >> biden: let me have a chance to translate. ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut number one in terms of tax expenditures. number two 90% of the small businesses in america make less than $250,000. let me tell you who some of
>> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions, so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board --...
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look at ronald reagan, it gets right down to it, these horrible tragedies occur -- neil: you don't think it is an issue that drives and -- [talking over each other] >> let's get to the bottom of the facts. neil: senator, maybe you can enlighten me. when vice president biden was talking about those of the upper income, those earning a million dollars or more, the party has argued it is the 250,000-dollar threshold. the vice president just raise that? >> you referred to both because both have been debating and voting on the senate. but the position of the administration, which biden said clearly, turning the paul ryan, why won't you a least let us preserve the middle class tax cuts for those making under $250,000. neil: he kept mentioning 1 million. >> there were several illustrations there. neil: so was he talking about the change of the administration? >> i don't think so. we voted on both plants. the most recent preserve the tax cut for those -- neil: so it's not a million comments 250,000? >> i still do. i still think so. the republican filibuster stopped us from preserving these middl
look at ronald reagan, it gets right down to it, these horrible tragedies occur -- neil: you don't think it is an issue that drives and -- [talking over each other] >> let's get to the bottom of the facts. neil: senator, maybe you can enlighten me. when vice president biden was talking about those of the upper income, those earning a million dollars or more, the party has argued it is the 250,000-dollar threshold. the vice president just raise that? >> you referred to both because...
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>> look at what -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a frame work to lower tax rates and broaden the base and fix na. we are saying, here's our frame work, lower tax rates 20%. we raised $1.2 trillion in income taxes and forego $1.1 trillion in loophole deductions. we are saying, deny the loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers, so more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate? >> to lower the tax rates across the board. what we are saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond-- >>> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> martha: no specifics? >> lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it? >> martha: you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and verified. >> martha: vice-president -- [overlapping dialogue] >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> first of all, i was there when ronald reagan tax rates and he gave specifics of what he was going to cut, number 1 nterms of tax expen
>> look at what -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a frame work to lower tax rates and broaden the base and fix na. we are saying, here's our frame work, lower tax rates 20%. we raised $1.2 trillion in income taxes and forego $1.1 trillion in loophole deductions. we are saying, deny the loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers, so more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate? >> to lower the tax rates across the...